I stayed home sick today. This is a big deal. I don’t like to miss school. I spend two hours writing sub plans that won’t be followed and worry all day about my students. Forget the fever. Forget the chills. Forget the body aches. Unless I am contagious or coughing up a lung, I might as well go.
The only reason I didn’t go to school today is because I lost my voice. Doubtful that I could go five minutes without talking with my students—much less eight hours—I decided to stay home and spare my raw throat the agony. My students and I spend our days talking—conferring, discussing Auggie’s disastrous Halloween while reading Wonder, sharing our writing, or debating which book should win this year’s Bluebonnet Award (our prediction: Zita the Spacegirl). We talk constantly.
After visiting our classroom, my principal left a note on my desk praising my students’ “love for language, confidence, and sense of empowerment.” I laughed and wondered if this was principal code for “so much talking it sounds like a beehive in here.” The only time my students and I aren’t talking is when we read and write. Destiny, one of my chattiest students, points out, “We are still talking, Mrs. Miller, we are just talking in our heads.”
A few years into my teaching career, I realized that there was no way I always drew the “party class” during scheduling. It’s me. My students figure out quickly that I don’t mind talking as long as we remain productive. My students seem as starved for conversation as they do for books. They need to talk—to express themselves and process what they are learning.
Spending as little as ten minutes a day engaged in conversations about what they read and write positively affects students’ reading achievement, comprehension, and writing. As James Britton famously said, “Reading and writing float on a sea of talk.” Setting aside time for students to talk is one of the most effective learning strategies and one of the least utilized. Teachers see too much talking as a problem and invest a lot of time into developing classroom routines and consequences that shut down talking.
Recognizing my students’ need to talk and the value of talk in the classroom, my instruction has changed over the years to include more opportunities for talking, not less. Here are some easy-to-implement methods for increasing productive talk in the classroom:
Every time you ask the class as question, invite students to discuss their thoughts with each other. Classroom questioning historically follows an initiate-respond-evaluate cycle in which the teacher initiates a question, one student responds, and the teacher evaluates the response. Most of the other students sit disengaged and the teacher can’t evaluate what more than one student knows. Posing a question to my class, I circulate and listen to groups’ discussion, assessing what my students know and addressing misconceptions as needed. Gathering my class back together, I call on groups randomly to share their conversations. I don’t just call on hand raisers. It could be anyone.
After students read, invite them to share what they discover or wonder about their books. Through these conversations, students process what they have learned from their reading and increase their understanding of what they read. Sharing their reading, students provide their peers with reading recommendations that lead to more reading, too. The primary way readers respond to books is through reader-to-reader endorsement. The more students talk about their reading, the better their writing about reading becomes, too.
When writing stalls, talk more. Setting aside time for students to write every day, I notice that some students have difficulty beginning or sustaining writing. When I notice students’ enthusiasm for writing flagging, we spend more time discussing our life experiences as potential writing topics and sharing snippets of our writing. Presenting new writing topics, I often ask students to discuss the topic first, and then write.
If side talking and chatter interrupt classroom instruction, provide students with a minute or two to talk. Right before or after the weekend, holiday breaks, assemblies, snowstorms, library visits or any other disruption from our normal routine, I notice that my students chat more. When I offer students a few minutes to chat about these events first, I can usually lead them toward making a connection to something we have read or spark ideas for writing.
Include students in conversations about classroom organization and routines. When my students begged me for a new seating chart, complaining that they didn’t like our desk arrangements, I asked students to design our next seating plan. Working during our morning meeting time, my homeroom developed several seating designs and pitched them to the rest of the class. After voting on the most workable plan, we moved the desks and chairs. Every morning, my students straighten desks that shifted and set out the chairs. They own that seating plan and work to maintain it.
I know that many of these ideas aren’t new, but I need the reminder that talking isn’t a bad thing if it leads to students’ learning, sense of belonging, and investment in our community. Inside my classroom, I always have a voice. I want my students to feel that way, too.
My voice will come back in a few days. I predict that my sub will leave me a nice note about how great my class was, except for the talking. My students will have a lot to tell me about what I missed. I can’t wait to hear every word.
Donalyn Miller is a fourth grade teacher at Peterson Elementary in Fort Worth, TX. She is the author of The Book Whisperer: Awakening the Inner Reader in Every Child. Donalyn co-hosts the monthly Twitter chat, #titletalk (with Nerdy co-founder, Colby Sharp), and facilitates the Twitter reading initiative, #bookaday.







I hope you are feeling better soon. I am going to share your ideas with our 5th grade teacehrs. She has the most chatty class ever! Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
Yes, Destiny, yes! (and Donalyn, can my kids move to your classroom?) Writers “talk in their heads” a lot. At school visits, I always bring up the idea of talking as my (the?) main way into writing…I’m seen some teachers scandalized but to my mind we all began life hearing and telling stories out loud and the most comfortable way to organize, judge audience reaction, find the theme or story arc, etc is to verbalize our ideas. No, it’s not new, but it’s really infrequent in the schools I know…when teachers spend too much time telling children to “be quiet” instead of guiding their talking, is it any surprise that when faced with a blank page and time to write, their hands and hearts are quiet too?
I love the line “…there was no way I always drew the “party class”.”
Thank you for this post! I needed this today after the principal recently described my classroom as “controlled literary chaos” because the students move and talk to one another so much. It’s (nearly always) “on task” chat, but it can get very loud at times. I have several types of bells I use to get their attention when it’s time to circle back together, but some days I could use an air horn. The days that we run our writer’s response groups, no one wants to stop, unless they are dying to get back to the book they’re reading.
No wonder you were behind the idea of #Titletalk. :-> it’s just an extension of your classroom.
Love all your ideas! I recently noticed that having students talk about writing topics and brainstorming together before writing helps our writing time also!
I visited a high school campus this week where the whole staff needs to read this post. I saw very little student talk–mostly a teacher at the front of the room randomly calling on students who were sitting in rows to answer questions. This was defined as engagement. Not by me. Not by anyone else who understands the value of student discourse. At a training last week with Kylene Beers, she reminded me: “the smartest person in the room is the room.” A talking classroom thinks, shares, explores, and learns. Thank you for these great reminders on how to make that happen, even in high school.
Well, this post made me feel so much better about MY chatty class. As you write, our kids have so much to say and are hungry for good conversations about the books the read and the stuff they are learning about. They want to be engaged…so let the chatting continue! Feel better, Donalyn!
Interactive read aloud with accountable talk is the new eduspeak for this. When I was at Teachers College with Lucy Calkins last summer, this was a huge focus of Kathy Collins when she was talking about elements of balanced literacy in the classroom. As a first grade/second grade looping teacher I get to teach these kids how to talk about their learning. Your post included perfect examples of how I am trying to model learning conversations for my students. Then, when they are doing partner work, they engage in these same kinds of words I use during our large group conversations.
Rest well.
Thank you for a great post! I feel like Tara- I too have a chatty class (every year, regardless of grade level it seems!) But they love school! Thanks for validating
Listening and speaking are so important– sharing ideas makes for happy and inspired students!
Sending get well soon vibes your way! I’m clearly not a teacher, but I love reading about what you and your colleagues do in the classroom and I really wish you were one of my teachers, Donalyn! We would have had so much to talk about! Trust me.
A wonderful post today. It’s nice that writing gives you a voice even when you can’t speak. A great reminder that students (like many adults) are social beings. Productive conversations should be encouraged and valued.
As a side note, I once spent a day of teaching without my voice and it was the quietest day in my class ever. I went to school because it did not hurt, I just couldn’t talk. I used a bell and typed on my ENO board. It was very strange.
I loved hearing about the chats, & wish I could see your class. I think the nicest idea is that when you notice there seems to be more talk than usual, you stop & give them a few minutes to chat. It’s a great idea. I did all the other things when in the classroom, but not that one. Thanks for talking through your thoughts!
Donalyn, today I needed to read a post just like yours. Your post is reminding me to value the chatting between students and allow for more of it. I need to use conversation more in math and science! My fifth graders love to talk about books and characters from books…Why they just love to talk…and talk…so I will let them, I’ll just make it productive. Thank you for this post! Hope you are better soon..I know your students miss YOU when you aren’t there!
I love this post I have chatty classes too, and we’re talking about books! Life, too, but even those talks are usually related back to books! Ha. I had another teacher pop her head in my room on Monday to see what all the cheering and screaming was – how could I explain it was just the Caldecott announcements? I think she was confused.
She really was just checking to see if everything was ok. Hope you feel better soon!
I hope you are feeling better. Sometimes chatting helps the thinking and sometimes it is a time waster. I just introduced “Today’s Meet” to my Digital Storytelling as a way for them to ‘chat’ on a back channel. Some kids were in a grove and trying to get their ideas down while others were still needing that opportunity to discuss. Having the back channel allowed for both!
Thank you for reminding us that student voices are vital to a community of learner a. I loved the last sentence…it says it all.